By David Hobbs
I write these blog posts to stir discussion and thinking, especially out-of-the-box thinking, rather than to advance some pet doctrine. Therefore, my last post on the need of “think-tank Christian planners and strategists” was not necessarily advocating for that, but bemoaning the church’s passivity, complacency, and continual playing defense against the devil. Way too many churches are sitting around waiting for the Rapture or for God to judge/destroy the world like in Noah’s day, instead of imitating Jesus, who came to “destroy the works of the devil.” Believe me, the church will fare much better going through the destruction of the works of the devil than going through the destruction of the world!
If we believe the Bible when it says “Greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world,” then why don’t we live like it? Why don’t we demonstrate to the watching angels, demons and holy ones that it is true while giving glory to Jesus at the same time? But what glory is it to Him watching us being systematically driven out of the culture (while living lives indistinguishable from the world)?
How bad is it? Has it ever been this bad before? Sadly enough it has. Consider this passage from church revival scholar J. Edwin Orr, as quoted in the Renewal Journal:
Not many people realize that in the wake of the American Revolution there was a moral slump. Drunkenness became epidemic. Out of a population of five million, 300,000 were confirmed drunkards: they were burying fifteen thousand of them each year. Profanity was of the most shocking kind. For the first time in the history of the American settlement, women were afraid to go out at night for fear of assault. Bank robberies were a daily occurrence.
What about the churches? The Methodists were losing more members than they were gaining. The Baptists said that they had their most wintry season. The Presbyterians in general assembly deplored the nation’s ungodliness. In a typical Congregational church, the Rev. Samuel Shepherd of Lennox, Massachusetts in sixteen years had not taken one young person into fellowship. The Lutherans were so languishing that they discussed uniting with Episcopalians who were even worse off. The Protestant Episcopal Bishop of New York, Bishop Samuel Provost, quit functioning: he had confirmed no one for so long that he decided he was out of work, so he took up other employment. The Chief Justice of the United States, John Marshall, wrote to the Bishop of Virginia, James Madison, that the Church “was too far gone ever to be redeemed.” Voltaire averred, and [atheist] Tom Paine echoed, “Christianity will be forgotten in thirty years.”
Take the liberal arts colleges at that time. A poll taken at Harvard had discovered not one believer in the whole of the student body. They took a poll at Princeton, a much more evangelical place: they discovered only two believers in the student body, and only five that did not belong to the filthy speech movement of that day. Students rioted. They held a mock communion at Williams College; and they put on anti-Christian plays at Dartmouth. They burned down the Nassau Hall at Princeton. They forced the resignation of the president of Harvard. They took a Bible out of a local Presbyterian church in New Jersey, and burned it in a public bonfire. Christians were so few on campus in the 1790s that they met in secret, like a communist cell, and kept their minutes in code so that no one would know.
In case this is thought to be the hysteria of the moment, Kenneth Scott Latourette, the great church historian, wrote: “It seemed as if Christianity were about to be ushered out of the affairs of men.” The churches had their backs to the wall, seeming as if they were about to be wiped out.
And yet out of that dark and dismal time rose the Second Great Awakening—a series of great revivals that swept across the country up until the time of the Civil War. What caused the turn-around? The church finally woke up to its desperate situation, got serious with God, and began praying in earnest. They quit playing church, got down on their faces before God and implored Him for help. (“If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways [their torpid complacency], then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.”)
Brothers and sisters, the ball is not in God’s court. The ball is in our court! What will it take for enough people in the church to get so desperate at what’s going on that they will finally pray fervent, even frantic prayers that will bring down God’s saving response? What will it take? When they come for our Bibles? When they come for our children? When we have to hide in the catacombs and keep the records of our meetings in code? When they show up at our door with an executioner’s ax in one hand and a tattoo needle in the other to put the “Mark of the Beast” on us? Will we cry out to God then? When will we get serious?
In the days of the Judges, the people of God were in a similarly indifferent, apathetic, backslidden state; so much so that the husband whose concubine was slain by gang-raping homosexuals had to cut her body into 12 pieces and send a piece to each of the 12 tribes of Israel to get them outraged enough to take action. (Don’t believe me? Read it for yourself in Judges 19-20.)
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[Great blog, David. Saw this little snippet on the net.]
PRETRIB RAPTURE SECRETS
How can the “rapture” be “imminent”? Acts 3:21 says that Jesus “must” stay in heaven (He's now there with the Father) “until the times of restitution of all things” which includes, says Scofield, “the restoration of the theocracy under David’s Son” which obviously can’t begin before or during Antichrist’s reign. ("The Rapture Question," by the long time No. 1 pretrib authority John Walvoord, didn't dare to even list, in its scripture index, the too-hot-to-handle Acts 3:21!) Since Jesus can’t even leave heaven before the tribulation ends (Acts 2:34,35 echo this), the rapture therefore can't take place before the end of the trib! (The same Acts verses were also too hot for John Darby - the so-called "father of dispensationalism" - to list in the scripture index in his "Letters"!)
Paul explains the “times and the seasons” (I Thess. 5:1) of the catching up (I Thess. 4:17) as the “day of the Lord” (5:2) which FOLLOWS the posttrib sun/moon darkening (Matt. 24:29; Acts 2:20) WHEN “sudden destruction” (5:3) of the wicked occurs! The "rest" for "all them that believe" is tied to such destruction in II Thess. 1:6-10! (If the wicked are destroyed before or during the trib, who'd be left alive to serve the Antichrist?) Paul also ties the change-into-immortality “rapture” (I Cor. 15:52) to the posttrib end of “death” (15:54). (Will death be ended before or during the trib? Of course not! And vs. 54 is also tied to Isa. 25:8 which is Israel's posttrib resurrection!)
Many are unaware that before 1830 all Christians had always viewed I Thess. 4’s “catching up” as an integral part of the final second coming to earth. In 1830 this "rapture" was stretched forward and turned into a separate coming of Christ. To further strengthen their novel view, which the mass of evangelical scholars rejected throughout the 1800s, pretrib teachers in the early 1900s began to stretch forward the “day of the Lord” (what Darby and Scofield never dared to do) and hook it up with their already-stretched-forward “rapture.” Many leading evangelical scholars still weren’t convinced of pretrib, so pretrib teachers then began teaching that the “falling away” of II Thess. 2:3 is really a pretrib rapture (the same as saying that the “rapture” in 2:3 must happen before the “rapture” ["gathering"] in 2:1 can happen – the height of desperation!).
Other Google articles on the 182-year-old pretrib rapture view include "Pretrib Rapture Politics," "Pretrib Rapture Scholar Wannabes," “Famous Rapture Watchers,” "Pretrib Rapture Diehards," “X-Raying Margaret,” "Edward Irving is Unnerving," “Thomas Ice (Bloopers),” "Walvoord Melts Ice," “Wily Jeffrey,” “The Rapture Index (Mad Theology),” “America’s Pretrib Rapture Traffickers,” “Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism,” “Scholars Weigh My Research,” “Pretrib Hypocrisy,” "Appendix F: Thou Shalt Not Steal," "Thieves' Marketing," "Pretrib Rapture Secrecy," “Deceiving and Being Deceived,” "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty," and "Christ's return is NOT imminent!" – all by the author of the bestselling book “The Rapture Plot” (see Armageddon Books). Patriots should also Google "The Background Obama Can't Cover Up."
Yes the Rapture's always been a controversial question. I hold to the "Reverse Rapture" theory myself, wherein the wicked are taken away and the righteous remain. There is actually a lot of Scripture supporting it, like Psalm 104:35--"But may sinners vanish from the earth and the wicked be no more." When Jesus said that "one will be taken and the other left" (Mt. 24:40) he didn't say which was the righteous and which the sinner. But if you read just before that, He was comparing it to the judgment in Noah's day when the wicked were destroyed (their souls taken) and the righteous left behind.
You mentioned "when will the church do this and that." A thought: Could it be that the institutional church is so full of the world, that the ones who have been following the Lamb where He goes, need to 'come out from among them and be seperate?' I mean the tares do grow among the wheat, and not all who will cry ,"Lord, Lord" will be received by Him. This could be the great harvest where the angels seperate God's own, and put them in His garner. Yes, there was always a remnant in Israel, and that may be all we can hope for in America also. Each individual, who is a part of the ecclesia (the called-out ones) that He is building, will continue to go forward and let Him conform them to His image, and to do His Will as directed by His Spirit. "Though none go with me" will be their theme, as time marches on and more and more people will fall by the wayside; "the great falling away," He calls it.
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